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Gross sales Pipeline Radio, Episode 321: Q & A with Omi Bell @iamshellybell


By Matt Heinz, President of Heinz Advertising

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This week’s present is entitled, “Closing the Funding Hole for Lady and Minority-Owned Begin-Ups” and my visitor is Omi Bell, Founder & CEO of Black Lady Ventures.

Maintain studying to find out about:

  • The enterprise capital funding hole for lady and minority-owned start-ups
  • A framework for various hiring, advertising, and funding
  • Vital abilities and classes from door-to-door gross sales

Pay attention in now for this and MORE, watch the video or learn the transcript beneath:

Matt: All proper. Welcome everybody to a different episode of Gross sales Pipeline Radio. My title is Matt Heinz. I’m your host. We’re right here each week, Thursday at 11:30 Pacific, 2:30 Jap. Thanks everybody for watching us.

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I’m very excited for our episode right now. That is about six months within the making. I really feel like we first began speaking about this in February, which seems like not solely was it a very long time in the past, however an entire financial interval in the past, probably. Omi Bell, you’re the CEO of Black Lady Ventures. Thanks a lot for becoming a member of us right now.

Omi: Thanks for having me. I’m excited.

Matt: I’m as nicely. So many issues we are able to discuss. I’m going to start out with the vacuum cleaners. As a result of I feel, we talked concerning the work you might be doing to assist minorities, black and brown folks, get higher entry to capital to develop their enterprise. I wish to discuss that and form of the place that got here from and the way folks can get entangled. However you talked about that you simply acquired your begin in gross sales and that helped you discover ways to be a fundraiser, promoting vacuum cleaners. Discuss just a little bit about how you bought into that. And what’s it prefer to be a vacuum cleaner salesperson?

Omi: Properly hi there to the Gross sales Pipeline Radio viewers. Thanks a lot for having me, Matt. If you consider it, when you find yourself promoting vacuum cleaners, that is pre-COVID pre-monkeypox pre-world-gone-wild. You needed to stroll as much as somebody’s door. Get them to allow you to of their home to point out them one thing that they already personal. I don’t know some other layer of gross sales that deep. The place it’s like, “Hey, I acquired to get into your own home and present you one thing that you have already got and let you know why mine is best.”

And the one who skilled me, what he would do is he would say, “All people’s coming via and displaying you.” It was Electrolux, those that I used to be utilizing, that I used to be promoting. He would say, “ what? All people’s coming via and displaying you these vacuum cleaners. However the one factor that they’re attempting to promote you on is the factor that isn’t what the vacuum cleaner does greatest, vacuum. They’re promoting you on shampooing. They’re promoting you on noise, all these various things, however they’re not promoting you on this. Let me simply present you ways nicely it vacuums.” And it will hit the core of individuals. The place they’re like, “Really, I do wish to vacuum higher.”

And I feel that’s whenever you get that buy-in, that’s the important thing. However now whenever you’re exterior the door, you solely have a small window to get into the door. One, the door has been slammed in your face a bunch of instances. So once I say it ready me for fundraising, it was as a result of it actually ready me for what I prefer to name the rhythm of no’s.

Like no’s have a beat to them. And it’s important to work out your dance and the way you’re going to recover from the subsequent no. As a result of they’ll occur. No is part of life. You simply maintain going. As a result of you already know there’s a sure coming someplace. And so, you begin to get higher on the spiel on the door.

Matt: So, a pair issues I wish to comply with up on that then. I imply, you discuss form of the rhythm of no’s, which I feel a number of salespeople can relate to. There’s a stage of persistence and resilience that’s required to work via that. How do you be taught that? How do you get snug with that? What made you profitable at attending to the subsequent door and the subsequent door and the subsequent door?

Omi: It’s a exercise. I want I had a magical tip that was identical to, “Oh yeah. And I went to remedy. I did that, however that wasn’t it.” So it’s like working a muscle. And it’s important to stroll in and now you’re a bodybuilder in a day. You really run via just a few of them and you then begin. It’s attention-grabbing as a result of what occurs is at first it feels so private. After which after you do it so many instances you progress into the house of, okay, is that this about me? I wish to stroll you thru the psychological like, oh, nicely that didn’t really feel good. Was there one thing I might have achieved? After which after you run that rhythm of knocking on so many doorways, you begin to perceive like, oh, how can I refine what I’m doing? And on the base of it, it’s the human spirit.

Matt: Yeah. Yeah.

Omi: You simply begin to enchantment to the human spirit in a different way. And as genuinely as you probably can. After which draw them right into a query that they reply of their heads, that you then don’t must reply for them. So the factor you may have is the reply. And so they simply have to see it, however you bought to get them to grasp that psychologically. So truthfully, it’s simply, like I stated, a rhythm. It’s consistently doing it. Don’t quit. Run proper again in there and take a look at it once more. After which what you find yourself discovering out is it’s not private. It’s not private in any respect.

Matt: What I can see and listen to in you is a stage of confidence that I’m positive is partly from simply having achieved it loads. Simply getting again up and going to the subsequent door. A confidence in your self, confidence in your message, confidence in your product. Let’s discuss how that pertains to fundraising. As a result of fundraising is a gross sales course of. Fundraising additionally usually means a refrain of no’s regularly. What classes had been you in a position to pull out of your gross sales profession into being a extra profitable fundraiser?

Omi: I imply, it’s simply understanding the psychology of the funder. We each have one thing that we would like and understanding that from their standpoint, there’s a pair issues. I at all times inform folks, “No simply means not proper now. It’s not the precise particular person or it’s not the precise alignment.” That’s it. It’s not a demise sentence. It isn’t the precise particular person, not the precise time, not the precise ask.

Typically you’re speaking to people who don’t have energy. One other factor, whenever you’re standing at that door, you might be speaking to the husband who can’t do something with out the spouse. It’s possible you’ll be speaking to the spouse who can’t do something with out the husband. It’s possible you’ll be speaking to the grown grownup baby that actually has no cash and might’t do something in any respect.

And the identical factor occurs in fundraising. Typically you suppose you’re speaking to the precise particular person and also you’re speaking to the advertising particular person, not the fund supervisor, or not this system supervisor that may enable you. Typically apparently sufficient, with the husband and spouse instance I simply gave, typically you’re speaking to the person who you suppose has the facility. You’re like, “Oh, nicely you’re the pinnacle of DEI. You’re the pinnacle of promoting, don’t you?” And it’s like, oh no, I acquired to socialize this.

Matt: Yeah. Yeah. I bear in mind years in the past I used to be at Microsoft. We did some analysis round owners and residential patrons. And we discovered that even historically, males within the family are solely accountable and solely have authority for getting three issues: beer, batteries, and tires. Every part else was both a joint dialogue or, “I acquired to go discuss to my spouse about that earlier than I decide.”

Omi: Wow. I might like to run that information on different issues too. I’m wondering how that works in philanthropy. Yeah, that’s so attention-grabbing. As a result of identical to I stated, typically you’re taking a look at these folks, you’re pondering, however you’re the pinnacle of it. Typically they don’t have their very own budgets. The heads don’t have their very own budgets.

Matt: And typically we take into consideration shopper choices being form of a singular factor. And B2B is like, you bought this committee of people who have to succeed in choices. However I imply, look, you bought affect. Even in the event you’re saying, I personal the funds or I personal the cash, affect. If I make this resolution and somebody doesn’t prefer it, I’ve to stay with that later. It will get sophisticated shortly. I do wish to make sure that as a result of we’re working round out of time right here, I wish to discuss Black Lady Ventures. The work you might be doing to assist black and brown feminine house owners and entrepreneurs get entry to capital. You’ve helped over 270 companies create 1000’s of jobs. So to begin with, thanks and congratulations for that. Discuss just a little bit about how you bought began with this and why is it so necessary to you?

Omi: I might say it’s so immediately associated to gross sales, simply because, like I stated, whenever you run these reps, you acquire that confidence. You then really feel like, nicely, hey, let’s simply strive one thing. Let’s simply toss stuff on the wall and see what occurs. The information got here out that black girls at the moment are beginning companies at six instances the nationwide common. That is pre pandemic. Black girls beginning companies at six instances a nationwide common, but receiving lower than 1% of enterprise capital. And my thought was that I might do one thing about that. And thru my expertise of constructing group, I’ve lived many lives by the way in which. I labored for the Patent and Trademark Workplace, labored in Ok-12 training, labored in workforce improvement, and I used to be an artist doing efficiency poetry. So I realized constructing via that.

I put it up on meetup.com. 30 girls confirmed as much as a home in Southeast DC. 4 folks pitched and we voted with marbles and occasional mugs. I imply, it was a brunch. I took the cash from the door and gave it to the person who we determined that gained. In the event you like that particular person, you set your marble of their espresso mug. And truthfully, at that time, that was it. I used to be identical to, “Oh, that is cool. Individuals prefer it.” And so I simply stored doing it, discovering different group areas. I feel naturally, as from a businesswoman’s standpoint, I began taking a look at, oh, how do I get the most individuals in entrance of the individuals who want probably the most assist? And that’s actually what it’s been about. How do I get the most individuals that may assist in the neighborhood in entrance of the individuals who have probably the most want. And that’s type of how we work. So it’s capital capability and group.

Matt: That’s such an amazing mannequin. I’ve talked to a number of entrepreneurs and founders, and everybody has tales of resilience and having gotten no’s a number of the time. I imply, I’m a white male, neurotypical, cis. I imply, I’ve a number of privilege. And I feel it’s exhausting for me typically to grasp or to know form of how exhausting it may be for folks with out a few of that privilege. Discuss what you see out there, somebody with darker pores and skin, who’s additionally feminine. What are among the particular challenges they’re going through by way of elevating cash and rising their enterprise, that we’d like extra folks to find out about?

Omi: Primary, perception in belief. And research present this. Like this isn’t Matt and Omi making up simply what we predict. Research present that in case you are a darker pores and skin, that you’re primary simply not trusted. Simply on web site. You haven’t even stated something but. I additionally suppose there may be then, due to underrepresented folks within the nation being in a susceptible state, due to crimson lining, and lack of entry to capital over time, this isn’t a brand new drawback. It is a big drawback that’s been snowballing all over life in many years. And right here we at the moment are attempting to determine how we unravel it or how we simply type of like throw it to the aspect and do one thing new.

How can we get revolutionary round it? So, it seems like we’re caught a bit. I might say that the problem is simply being believed as an individual of coloration is primary. I do know that sounds so loopy, nevertheless it’s simply that easy in saying, taking the chance tolerance round, hey, an individual such as you has by no means achieved this earlier than. From what I do know in my place, due to this fact it feels dangerous to me, proper? Versus a white male comes on a job, he’s routinely trusted till he fails. Versus you’re not trusted, and you might want to show your self. In order that narrative alone is breaking us down in humanity. Simply even having the ability to look into some deeper improvements that black and brown folks have. Get previous that I feel, after which we are able to now discuss concerning the capital we’ve got, how it’s important to get it. However that could be a big barrier.

Matt: We’re speaking right now on Gross sales Pipeline Radio with Omi Bell. She is the CEO of Black Lady Ventures. I’m positive you get this query loads. If folks say, “Pay attention, how do I assist? What can I do to be a greater advocate? What can I do to, I imply, I may give cash, however what are the issues that I can do which are accessible to me that I may be an energetic advocate and participant in form of creating extra alternative?” How do you reply that query?

Omi: I feel one factor you are able to do is to start out. So, some issues you are able to do with your self is type of beginning to turn into extra conscious of the bias. Simply turn into extra conscious. And you are able to do that via studying articles. You are able to do that via watching YouTube movies. You are able to do that via discovery by yourself. It’s turning into extra conscious. So whenever you’re in these conversations with buddies and there’s sure issues which are flying by, you’re in a position to go, “Ooh, hey, wait a minute. Really, why don’t we simply give it some thought just a little deeper? Or simply unpack that.” So I feel getting curious is primary. I feel sharing, if it’s not cash. Not, you don’t wish to donate, however that looks like the better factor to do. However sharing, “Hey, I’ve a possibility that I can really share with somebody that will make sense to diversify what’s right here.”

And I don’t like to make use of constructing bridges as a result of I really feel like you possibly can construct a bridge and have no one cross it. We’ve been speaking about bridge constructing for many years and we nonetheless haven’t solved the problem. So I have a look at it like elevate the common. In the event you’re in a room and also you go searching and you might be like, this can be a actually white room proper now. It will simply elevate the common variety of black folks to get to attend this factor. Or folks of coloration to get to attend this factor. Take a look at your LinkedIn profile, undergo a pair pages. The place are you on diversifying simply who you’re related to?

Matt: Yeah. I wish to ask you about simply hiring as nicely. We’ve had just a few completely different classes round rising the extent of range in advertising efforts. And one of many large headlines that’s come out of that for me is to be extra various in your advertising, you might want to be extra various in your workforce. In case your workforce creating that advertising is itself not various, it’s more durable to give you that. What are some suggestions you may have for hiring managers to form of enhance the range of their groups, in addition to perhaps the consultants and others which are contributing to concepts to extend its range?

Omi: The instance that my CFO makes use of is just like the Avengers. And so within the second the place they should defeat Thanos, all people has to pay attention their energy on Thanos. Now all people can’t have the identical energy. As a result of then it’s no more highly effective. So, if we’re simply having the identical energy it’s no more highly effective. We’re extra highly effective when you may have various, completely different angles that the facility’s coming from and concentrated into the place you wish to win.

Now, in the event that they had been to not belief one another and switch to the left or proper, they’d kill one another, on this situation. So when you consider various thought, having extra folks on the desk goes to present you extra concepts. Proper now, Netflix has a present referred to as 100 people. It’s tremendous attention-grabbing to look at. And it’s acquired all folks from completely different age teams. It’s acquired twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, sixties. Properly, they gave them an train the place the twenties and the sixties really are successful. And so they’re like, why? And it’s like, what is occurring? Why are the twenties and the sixties successful? It’s as a result of in your twenties, you’re extra carefree. In your sixties, you’re additionally extra carefree. You’re settled on life in your sixties. And in your twenties, you’re new to life.

So, the strategy that these two can take is completely different for what some other particular person can take. And that’s the way in which to take a look at it, is the place persons are in life. Variety can imply a number of issues. It might imply pores and skin coloration, however it will possibly additionally imply gender, background, diploma, education, the place you’re situated. So age. So take into consideration range very broadly and say, “What are the most effective personalities and issues which are going to take us to win?”

Matt: Yeah. Thanks for that. I admire you speaking concerning the range of range. You begin to consider accessibility questions. You begin to consider the way in which folks be taught. Neurotypical or different challenges or simply tremendous powers, fairly frankly, that some folks have which are completely different from others. Which might be fairly frankly simply a part of defeating Thanos as nicely. Omi, I do know you’re busy. We acquired to allow you to go. If folks wish to be taught extra about Black Lady Ventures, learn extra about your perspective and the way they may help and simply form of turning into higher conscious and educating themselves, the place can they go and be taught?

Omi: Yeah. You go to www.blackgirlventures.org. You could possibly additionally go to omisworld.com

Matt: Like it. Superior. Properly, Omi Bell, CEO of Black Lady Ventures. Thanks a lot for all the nice work you’re doing. Thanks. I do know you’re loopy busy. Thanks for spending a while with us right here on Gross sales Pipeline Radio right now as nicely.

Omi: Thanks for having me.

Matt: Superior. Thanks everybody for watching and listening. Recognize you being right here. We’ll be right here subsequent week. Each Thursday, 11:30 Pacific, 2:30 Jap. Till then, my title is Matt Heinz. We’ll see you subsequent week.

 

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